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	<title>Comments on: Flash: better without Flash</title>
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	<description>Because FLOSS is handy, isn't it?</description>
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		<title>By: Super Jamie</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-10275</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure what's in the repos right now, but Adobe's own download of Flash 10 is working great for me on all my Ubuntu machines :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s in the repos right now, but Adobe&#8217;s own download of Flash 10 is working great for me on all my Ubuntu machines :)</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-10272</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in months to come we will see this becoming more common knowledge, as in trying to find a fix for my own similar issues I have read many, many unsolved forum posts describing identical symptoms.  (100% CPU, very slow framerate)  I haven't figured out how I managed to install libswfdec without noticing on my home PC, my laptop, *and* my work PC running various flavours of Debian/Ubuntu...  but after reading your post, they now all work flawlessly again.

I did an 'aptitude search swf' and removed all flash related packages, then 'aptitude search flash' and did the same, then an 'apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' and bingo!  Decent flash.  The trouble is apparently having multiple flash decoders installed at once.

Thanks for the pointer!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in months to come we will see this becoming more common knowledge, as in trying to find a fix for my own similar issues I have read many, many unsolved forum posts describing identical symptoms.  (100% CPU, very slow framerate)  I haven&#8217;t figured out how I managed to install libswfdec without noticing on my home PC, my laptop, *and* my work PC running various flavours of Debian/Ubuntu&#8230;  but after reading your post, they now all work flawlessly again.</p>
<p>I did an &#8216;aptitude search swf&#8217; and removed all flash related packages, then &#8216;aptitude search flash&#8217; and did the same, then an &#8216;apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree&#8217; and bingo!  Decent flash.  The trouble is apparently having multiple flash decoders installed at once.</p>
<p>Thanks for the pointer!!</p>
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		<title>By: Super Jamie</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems :)

I actually just solved my own Flash player problem tonight. I use Swiftfox, which only checks /usr/lib/firefox/ for plugins. Debian installs them under /usr/lib/iceweasel/, which Swiftfox doesn't check. A link called "firefox" but pointing to "iceweasel" fixed this up for me.

I suspect this would also be the issue if you were using Firefox (not Iceweasel) under Debian, but installing Iceweasel plugin packages with apt-get/aptitude/synaptic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems :)</p>
<p>I actually just solved my own Flash player problem tonight. I use Swiftfox, which only checks /usr/lib/firefox/ for plugins. Debian installs them under /usr/lib/iceweasel/, which Swiftfox doesn&#8217;t check. A link called &#8220;firefox&#8221; but pointing to &#8220;iceweasel&#8221; fixed this up for me.</p>
<p>I suspect this would also be the issue if you were using Firefox (not Iceweasel) under Debian, but installing Iceweasel plugin packages with apt-get/aptitude/synaptic.</p>
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		<title>By: isilanes</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>isilanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, Super Jamie. I was obviously describing some symptoms, not claiming I understand the underlaying issues :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Super Jamie. I was obviously describing some symptoms, not claiming I understand the underlaying issues :^)</p>
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		<title>By: Super Jamie</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whilst you might not have a flash player PACKAGE installed as far as aptitude knowns, the files will definitely be there somewhere, probably as a remnant of all your flash/swb/lib/gnash installs/uninstalls

an about:plugins in the address bar will tell you which flash player you're using, and the .so file that the plugin uses. i imagine it'll be nested under /usr/ somewhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whilst you might not have a flash player PACKAGE installed as far as aptitude knowns, the files will definitely be there somewhere, probably as a remnant of all your flash/swb/lib/gnash installs/uninstalls</p>
<p>an about:plugins in the address bar will tell you which flash player you&#8217;re using, and the .so file that the plugin uses. i imagine it&#8217;ll be nested under /usr/ somewhere</p>
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		<title>By: isilanes</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>isilanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href="http://handyfloss.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/flash-better-without-flash" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post in my former WP.com blog&lt;/a&gt;:

Ian Ferguson says:

&lt;i&gt;"None of this worked for me. I deleted all flash files and then installed adobe flash from their website. Now it works perfectly.
However when i download .flv files totem cant play them and vlc only plays sound. Both could play them in Ubuntu though. Ephiny web browser plays flash without problems too."&lt;/i&gt;

My answer:

&lt;i&gt;"Ian, I can’t follow you: where does not Flash work for you? With another Linux distro? (you say that it works in Ubuntu).

I don’t really claim to understand how or why Flash works. I just say that I have no package with “flash” or “swf” in the name in my Debian computers. Obviously, Firefox might have built-in support, and Flash support could be available through other packages with “codecs” in their name, for example."&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://handyfloss.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/flash-better-without-flash" rel="nofollow">this post in my former WP.com blog</a>:</p>
<p>Ian Ferguson says:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;None of this worked for me. I deleted all flash files and then installed adobe flash from their website. Now it works perfectly.<br />
However when i download .flv files totem cant play them and vlc only plays sound. Both could play them in Ubuntu though. Ephiny web browser plays flash without problems too.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>My answer:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Ian, I can’t follow you: where does not Flash work for you? With another Linux distro? (you say that it works in Ubuntu).</p>
<p>I don’t really claim to understand how or why Flash works. I just say that I have no package with “flash” or “swf” in the name in my Debian computers. Obviously, Firefox might have built-in support, and Flash support could be available through other packages with “codecs” in their name, for example.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: mb</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks I had the same exact problem. You pointed me to the correct solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks I had the same exact problem. You pointed me to the correct solution.</p>
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		<title>By: isilanes</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>isilanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing running is firefox-bin. I only play flash videos with Firefox and with MPlayer, and both seem to work OK without further packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing running is firefox-bin. I only play flash videos with Firefox and with MPlayer, and both seem to work OK without further packages.</p>
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		<title>By: walken</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>walken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you must have *some* player installed - when you play flash videos, can you look up in 'top' and see what's using CPU time ???

(not having anything installed here, and flash definitely won't play :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you must have *some* player installed - when you play flash videos, can you look up in &#8216;top&#8217; and see what&#8217;s using CPU time ???</p>
<p>(not having anything installed here, and flash definitely won&#8217;t play :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nishu</title>
		<link>http://handyfloss.net/2008.01/flash-better-without-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Nishu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash websites are awesome ..
I m currently wording on a ruby on rails website .. would soon start a flash website ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash websites are awesome ..<br />
I m currently wording on a ruby on rails website .. would soon start a flash website ..</p>
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